Comments on: Woman “Privileges”: Honorary or contempting?

By: Becklee

Becklee — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:22:57 +0000

Men and women are different. I do agree that some women do have problems with parking and they are also sometimes slow on the road. But I think more accidents on the road are caused by men.

As for equality, it would be good if we are treated equally whether at work, in government or in school. Unfortunately, there’s always some kind of stereo-typing in this world.

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:27:00 +0000

Hahaha.. Mbak Yonna ini bisa aja; masih jauh atuh buat Jakarta Post hehe..

Btw, that’s new; I’ve just known the linguistic history of that word and its etymological meaning. And it seems that it’s true that we have to get our logic on when basing our opinions on stuff like these.

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:23:15 +0000

So we reckon that Indonesia is not putting enough concern on driver’s safety, don’t you think? But I’m still curious why women then is reputed to have the possibility for the unsafe circumstances to happen. What do yo feel about that?

And I guess that’s the fact we see here in Indonesia when it comes to facilities for handicap people.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:28:48 +0000

Indeed, it’s very cool. I believe you get the feeling of self-proclaimed-respect when you treat woman gentlemanly. Well, it seems that this is man’s thing overall, don’t you think? We honor women to honor ourselves? Hahahaha!

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:26:15 +0000

okay then, as it ends up with men getting laid, i have no doubt on you but to agree. hahahahaha..

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:23:39 +0000

Hahahahahaha.. sad-yet-true fact. One more thing, when they got PMS, they want us to understand WHATEVER emotional conditions they are having! WHAT??! So woman can do whatever they want and use PMS as their justification?! Well, that’s a crap thought. I love woman no matter what.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:19:47 +0000

Agreed. We’re being cocky and self-gratified when it comes to talking about Batak; like hell. Hahaha.. Well, it seems that I have no doubt but to agree to all of your points you made there. And I guess your 3-word-conclusion wrapped it up already.

On Yoan: Yes, she’s crazy, no matter what she’s talking about, she always ends up with sex, or something related to that. Hahahaha..

By: mahel mahelino

mahel mahelino — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:53:54 +0000

Yeah, I agree with you also with that point. It’s interesting by the way to asking these kinds of questions since the situation happens in our daily basis. I do feel that that (not intentionally, or impulsively) there are some hidden meanings on those gentle things. But hey, I do enjoy it:) don’t you?

Well since I am one of those ‘angkot-ers’ I quite seeing that (well, to me at least) major improvements. I even noticed when accompanying my dad to Jakarta that some of “Angkot” driver there is actually a woman. The progress is there though we still had to fight it.

I think we should give credits also to some women tennis player such as Venus Williams for her strong proposals to fighting for equal prize between men’s and women’s champion in Wimbledon. Before her proposals, the tournament provided less rewards money for the Women’s champion than the Men’s Champion.

My favourite cousin, Amita Bahar, wrote an interesting opinion that I think quite related to your article, from women’s point of view. I think you could find it entertaining also.

http://amitabahar.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/they-called-it-women-equality-and-emancipation-of-women/
Enjoy!!!!

Regards,
Mahel

By: Marisa

Marisa — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:56:31 +0000

Should we remind ourselves on how patriarchal, sometimes even chauvinistic, Batak culture is in general? Lol. But that’s in general, in a way that we are often being stereotyped in such way.

Equality. I do believe in equality of universal human rights regardless gender. The morality of human rights naturally recognizes sense of fairness and justice, thus its quest for equality. It comes in the package.

But that’s morality.

In practice, it would be hard to literally measure an exact, balanced equality between genders. That’s basically like asking, who loves you most? Your father? Or mother?
How do we measure that?

But we could sense it with our minds and hearts; how both differentiates, yet compliments each other. Then again, there’s something that even law of equality itself can’t argue: nature, instinct.

It would be wise for people to value others, be it men or women, in a substantial way, not in vanity. Being noble or being a gentleman isn’t merely about giving a seat or opening the door for a woman, it’s about character. Being a feminist or an independent woman isn’t just about parking cars or as yonna said, hating marriage or a particular religion.

Three words that (perhaps!) could help resolve issues on gender equality: Don’t be shallow.

Thanks for this post, michael.

*chuckles at yoan’s comment. Good one.

By: anggi

anggi — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:41:01 +0000

Well, it’s the thing that has been part of our culture I guess. .
in being gentlemen, we expected to be acted like a gentlemen! means that we have to treat woman as a lady, opening the door, help with their luggage, and any kind of privileges. .
I’m sorry to say that a woman sometimes were so over demanding, . .they asked for an equality, the same right, both in career and everyday life, but when it comes to a financial problem in a family, women said that it is the duty of a man to find money as much as he can to support the family. .
hahaha, well, they are a women, . .